'Listen to the fascinating story behind Swell with Director Janenne Willis interviewed on Triple R - 3RRR’s Smart Arts, cue the 36min mark.'

https://www.rrr.org.au/explore/programs/smartarts/episodes/6395-smartarts-14-february-2019?fbclid=IwAR0UaK7Fd9t1nxT94Ny36xZw630eVxv8BJuMAE2N4rtAO6FscsjZ-yex4IA